On Saturday, March 14, 2015 at 10:22:51 PM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 3:33 AM, Rustom Mody wrote:> > As best as I can see python makes no distinction between such a foo and> > the more usual function/methods that have no returns.> > You can I can talk about these and distinguish them> > Python has no clue about it.> > But what support is actually needed? Look, I can write functions that> return values:> > def square(x):> return x*x> > four = square(2)> > and functions that don't:> > def save_to_file(fn):> with open(fn, "w") as f:> f.write(stuff)> f.write(more_stuff)> > save_to_file("/tmp/asdf")> > Who cares that the second one actually returns None and then ignores> that? It's not returning anything, it's not using the function return> value. This is, in effect, a procedure.> > How is Python worse off for doing things this way rather than having a> true "function with no return value" or "procedure" concept?
Well...
We can talk about that... maybe in another thread...
My more pressing question is that when I try to read the explanations of
generators, my tongue gets stuck behind my ears. And I suspect the problem is
with the terminology
My original question was quite genuine:
Thanks to Marko's collections from the docs and also Steven's
> That glossary entry is misleading, or at least incomplete, and it fails to> match the way "generator" is used by actual Python programmers.
I guess I can confirm that the docs are messy the concepts are confused
and we (teachers) have to do whatever we will with that state of affairs.
[I admit to even having (tried to) teach C++. But I would not try to repeat that
feat if I had a choice]
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