Re: [TCLCORE] Build on Windows 10 w/ VS2017 Community Edit ion and TIP organization …

Thanks Alexander,

BAWT was mentioned before, but after taking a look, it is not necessarily the think I need to develop inside the tcl sources.
If I do not write perfect working code, I'd like to inspect, to debug it and while BAWT is for sure really helpful in build from the scratch ….

I'm a lazy guy, wanting to stay in its used environment, needing some really good reasons to exchange it.

Best regards,
 
Martin Lemburg
Berlin / Germany

mart...@gmx.net
http://about.me/Martin0815
 
 
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Gesendet: Montag, 17. Juli 2017 um 17:53 Uhr
Von: "Alexander Schöpe" <a.sc...@gmx.de>
An: "Tcl Core List" <tcl-...@lists.sourceforge.net>
Cc: "Martin Lemburg" <mart...@gmx.net>
Betreff: Re: [TCLCORE] Build on Windows 10 w/ VS2017 Community Edition and TIP organization …
> Hi Martin,> > a simple way to build Tcl/Tk is to use Paul Obermeier’s BAWT.> See http://wiki.tcl.tk/48005 and http://www.bawt.tcl3d.org[http://www.bawt.tcl3d.org].> Most packages will be build with MSys/MinGW and some other need VS.> > You just need to download the build environment from his site.> Extract it.> Call "Build-Windows.bat x64 vs2008 Bawt-All\All.bawt“.> That’s it.> > Tcl/Tk with a lot of packages (batteries included) will automatically build.> > Regards,> Alex> > Bochum - Germany> > > Am 17.07.2017 um 16:43 schrieb Martin Lemburg <mart...@gmx.net>:> >> > Dear Harald,> >> > Thanks for your guide to building tcl in VS201x.> >> > A short summary:> >> > 1. get the most current sources from core.tcl.tk (extract to FileSystem (FS))> > 2. Use the VS developer console to build tcl(/Tk)> > 2.a Building Tk needs TCLDIR environment variable pointing to tcl source code containing directory> > 3. use nmake, not the ./win/buildall.vc.bat file - which stumbled building zlib from the VS developer console.> >> > Questions:> >> > 1. Visual Studio projects/solutions> >> > There are ./win/tcl.dsp and ./win/tcl.dsw files.> > Those are VC6 project/solution files, but there are now more recent VS201x project/solution files.> > If I would use those, VS2017 would try to convert them, so I'd try to work with them.> > But, why are they so "old"? Why aren't much "younger" files included?> > Sergey mentioned the project file, does anyone else use it?> >> > 2. Fossil/github mirror> >> > I might download the most current fossil sources or I might clone the github mirror and work on that.> > Since I won't necessarily need the direct repository access, whom would I may give the patches, changed files to put it into a "test" branch, test it, …?> > Or may I create my branch on the cloned repository change the desired files push the changes and fossil will get those? I fear not, since github is only a mirror and I don't have write access to the fossil repository, am I wrong?> > So - to keep it simple - should I stay with Haralds suggested scenario downloading, extracting, changing, and …?> >> > 3. TIP creation> > The TIPs are about to migrate - some day - to fossil.> > But currently I have to stay with writing a TIP (accordingly to #2 and #3) and send it to Donal, correct?> > BTW: https://www.tcl.tk/cgi-bin/tct/tip/[https://www.tcl.tk/cgi-bin/tct/tip/] is blocked by chrome trying to load scripts from an unsafe location.> >> > Best regards,> >> > Martin Lemburg> > Berlin / Germany> >> > mart...@gmx.net> > http://about.me/Martin0815[http://about.me/Martin0815]> >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------> > Gesendet: Montag, 17. Juli 2017 um 09:14 Uhr> > Von: "Harald Oehlmann" <hara...@elmicron.de>> > An: tcl-...@lists.sourceforge.net> > Betreff: Re: [TCLCORE] Build on Windows 10 w/ VS2017 Community Edition and TIP organization …> >> Dear Martin,> >>> >> thank you trying this !> >>> >> First I recomment to use fossil. All the recent TCL knowledge is there> >> including the wiki. I try to include info like "how to build" on the> >> wiki... Don't mix with the tcl wiki "wiki.tcl.tk". The core wiki is in> >> the tcl core repository.> >>> >> To make build tries, you don't need an installation.> >> - Go to http://core.tcl.tk/tcl[http://core.tcl.tk/tcl]> >> - Login as anonymous to get zip download and ticket features.> >> - Click on timeline> >> - click on the very left number of the last node with "tags:trunk". At> >> the moment, this is "[a3919af766]". This will lead you to:> >> http://core.tcl.tk/tcl/info/a3919af766032254[http://core.tcl.tk/tcl/info/a3919af766032254][http://core.tcl.tk/tcl/info/a3919af766032254[http://core.tcl.tk/tcl/info/a3919af766032254]]> >> - klick on "TIP Archive" to get the current test version.> >>> >> Now how to build ?> >> Here is my recipee. It is my way, other ways exist. This is the> >> mingw-free way. Most use the mingw way.> >> - create a folder c:\test> >> - copy the downloaded zip file to it> >> - extract it. You get C:\test\Tcl_Source_Code-a3919af766> >> - go in the start menu to> >> Visual Studio 2015\Visual Studio Tools\Windows Desktop Command> >> Prompts\VS2015 x86 Native Tools-Eingabeaufforderung> >> - type in the command prompt:> >> c:\test\Tcl_Source_Code-a3919af766\win> >> nmake -f makefile.vc> >> nmake -f makefile.vc INSTALL INSTALLDIR=c:\test\tcl-a3919af766> >> - you have tclsh.exe in c:\test\tcl-a3919af766\bin> >>> >> If you want to build Tk, it is quite similar, specify the> >> TCLDIR=c:\test\Tcl_Source_Code-a3919af766 in addition to the command line.> >>> >> If this scares you, I am sorry. I have many projects here (non TCL> >> community projects like zint, qzint) which build like that.> >> It sounds strange, but it is much more error-save than using> >> VisualStudio project files.> >> See the make file for more info.> >>> >> ---> >>> >> fossil is great. But it is command line and may feel very scary, I am> >> sorry for that. But it is the gate to the core, so please try to look> >> into it.> >>> >> ---> >>> >> About TIP's: it is also "scary" as it is but so far, we work with it and> >> it is better than nothing. So, if you have a tip, send it to donal by> >> email and hope, that he is not on holidays etc.> >>> >> ---> >> Hope this helps,> >> Harald
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